EVP

[yilduz]

When I watch shows like this, it takes a lot to impress me. Most shows that go looking for ghosts I won't even watch because it's so obviously fake and rigged to the point that nobody could possibly believe it. Ghost Hunters has built a reputation over the years because they try to disprove hauntings, rather than try to find evidence supporting a haunt. When they can't disprove something, that's when they feel they might have something. They don't really jump to conclusions and generally stay pretty objective.

When I was watching it last week, they were investigating a hotel. They managed to get some EVP that is absolutely incredible. What do you think?

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[RevLemmon]

You know that i'm a science guy, not really into all that religious bullshit, however on that note there are just some things that science can not currently explain. This is one of them, I'm sure that there is something going on of a supernatural nature and I am sure that in time we will understand what causes these phenomena, until then just have to go on faith.

[rynyth]

meh just cause its supernatural dosnt mean it has anything to do with religion....Granted i'm pretty sure you just said that >.<

But then again i'm a pagan ....dont belief in gods per say or higher beings..just more belief in essence and natural life essence and stuff.

but yea the whole thing is explainable...tho with science you probably could explain if you were seriously into it....but meh i'll just take anything at face value..if it tells me its a ghost...i'll just accept it

[The Black Knight]

A ghost would be physically impossible, therefore I don't believe in them.

[yilduz]

Apr 25, 2008 18:55:12 GMT -5 The Black Knight said:

A ghost would be physically impossible

Why is that?

[The Black Knight]

Apr 25, 2008 21:25:23 GMT -5 yilduz said:

Apr 25, 2008 18:55:12 GMT -5 The Black Knight said:

A ghost would be physically impossible

Why is that?

All sorts of reasons, first of all being what would a ghost actually be?

[yilduz]

Apr 26, 2008 0:42:51 GMT -5 The Black Knight said:

Apr 25, 2008 21:25:23 GMT -5 yilduz said:

Why is that?

All sorts of reasons, first of all being what would a ghost actually be?

I don't know, but just because we don't know, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I'm sure there is still a ton of stuff that exists on our planet we don't yet know about. Think of everything people didn't know of 100 years ago.

[The Black Knight]

True, but that stuff has evidence. Ghosts would require some sort of being or existence composed of no matter, that (probably) was sentient. And just happened to hang around houses and such.

[Azon Blackheart]

Apr 26, 2008 8:48:48 GMT -5 yilduz said:

Apr 26, 2008 0:42:51 GMT -5 The Black Knight said:

All sorts of reasons, first of all being what would a ghost actually be?

I don't know, but just because we don't know, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I'm sure there is still a ton of stuff that exists on our planet we don't yet know about. Think of everything people didn't know of 100 years ago.

I don't get caught up in the paranormal, but what get's me is astrology - specifically the expanding universe.

It's something like 14b years old and one of the big supporting theories to the big bang is that the universe is still pushing outward - like sparks from a sparkler. It's how they estimated the age by determining at what point was all this stuff one big hunk of shit.

But what's out there - beyond? Nothing? A glass lining like a snow globe? Infinity?

Beer?

Really good beer, I hope.

[Azon Blackheart]

Here's something to ponder, something that I used to think about a lot.

Take the Big Bang theory. The simplified version is that everything was condensed into this stuff that was uniform. One atom or something like that went crazy and set off a chain reaction causing the big bang, basically.

Now, I'm a purist when it comes to physics. If you have enough data on something, you can correctly calculate reactions. Take space, a vacuum. Tap a metal ball with a certain amount of exact force and you can correctly determine it's velocity.

The data is there, but virtually impossible to collect and measure - but if you could, you could calculate the Big Bang, where everything is going, what they are going to form (black holes, stars, planets, meteors, etc.). You could further calculate when life will spawn on the earth (assuming evolution).

And, since we are all physical property (our makeup, our brains, nerves, thoughs - all physical property), you can then calculate what we will do since it's all a product of physics. Everything from what Hitler did to what Jesus did - even my typing this forum entry. All properties of physics and calculatable.

You can then further calculate what everyone is going to do in the future - again, since it's all a product of physical reactions.

The data is again virtually impossible to collect and measure, but it's there and theoretically (my theory) calculatable.

And no, I don't smoke dope.

[The Black Knight]

Apr 26, 2008 12:29:30 GMT -5 Azon Blackheart said:

Here's something to ponder, something that I used to think about a lot.

Take the Big Bang theory. The simplified version is that everything was condensed into this stuff that was uniform. One atom or something like that went crazy and set off a chain reaction causing the big bang, basically.

Now, I'm a purist when it comes to physics. If you have enough data on something, you can correctly calculate reactions. Take space, a vacuum. Tap a metal ball with a certain amount of exact force and you can correctly determine it's velocity.

The data is there, but virtually impossible to collect and measure - but if you could, you could calculate the Big Bang, where everything is going, what they are going to form (black holes, stars, planets, meteors, etc.). You could further calculate when life will spawn on the earth (assuming evolution).

And, since we are all physical property (our makeup, our brains, nerves, thoughs - all physical property), you can then calculate what we will do since it's all a product of physics. Everything from what Hitler did to what Jesus did - even my typing this forum entry. All properties of physics and calculatable.

You can then further calculate what everyone is going to do in the future - again, since it's all a product of physical reactions.

The data is again virtually impossible to collect and measure, but it's there and theoretically (my theory) calculatable.

And no, I don't smoke dope.

Yes, exactly. If you knew enough, you would know exactly what everyone would do ever, exactly when and how they would do it.